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| ok.. so buzz crashes. how about a lifejacket? |
| | buzz has destroyed many of my songs, and that hurts a lot when it happens. i keep thinking, if only i could get a snapshot of the pattern data, machines, thier connections and parameter data, and while we're at it sequencer data (but not absolutely necessary) i could rebuild my song from whatever my last save point was.
so what if there was a machine that just read all the important data from all the other machines and constantly updated a big chunk of labels/values to say... the windows clipboard, a file on the drive, a registry entry... wherever... basically somewhere that wouldn't be affected if buzz crashed, then you could like... open up notepad and paste the data from the clipboard into it or load up the file or run regedit and get the data and the rebuild your song.
pattern/note data would be the most important i think. parameter data is second in line. sequence data and machine connections least important...
i have some knowledge of c/c++ programming, and i would be willing to tackle this project, if any of you experienced with the non-standard machine types could clue me in on how something like this might be accomplished with the buzz API... i assume a machine can't directly write to the disk. (however you have the HD recorder.. but what is that? it's not a machine... but something like that might be exactly the type of thing i would need to make for this...)
any ideas?
please email me at illium@unsuave.com if you could offer any suggestions...
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| 2003-01-06: In the last two years I have not lost any tracks because of buzz crashing. Good saving practices help a lot. Lately it hasn't even crashed on my own tracks. I get most crashes from loading other peoples tracks and when experimenting with older machines I have not used a lot. If you save often enough and keep a good version history of your tracks (meaning don't always overwrite the previous version) you will be quite safe. HD space is quite cheap these days and buzzfiles tend to be quite small anyway. Keeping some kind of version history is good with any software. And do not forget to make backups. by Elektroj?nis |
| | 2003-01-08: not to be rude, but do you seriously think i don't already know that? i wouldn't consider programming a project this in depth if a solution was already present. saving on a regular basis is something i already do. but it's not a good enough solution for me. no matter how often you save, there is still time in between saves. and there are still settings in your synths you don't exactly remember and don't want to have to 'redo'.. and ther are meldoy lines you can't remember the exact timing and intervals of and what not. getting stablity out of buzz doesn't seem possible, but getting an accurate picture of the variable present within buzz immediately prior to the crash seems possible and is IMHO the next best thing. the more i think about this, the more i think it's something i'll probably have to program an external program to do... not something that can be done from within buzz... dunno. by illium |
| | 2003-01-08: i think you could do it with buzzscript easy enough (some kind of autosave). shame its not released tho hehe :( maybe one day? by lee_dc |
| | 2003-01-08: Well... The remembering stuff I've made has never really been a problem for me actually, but that's probably because I work more by first thinking up some stuff I could try to do and then try to figure out how to make it... Not that I would not press the random button every now and then, but generally I can pretty much remember the changes I made in the last half an hour or even in the last one and half hours (ok, got to admit that a big part of this is because I'm a slow worker). More to the point, I haven't had a need to resort to making stuff again for a long time. It's almost a shame because redoing things usually tends to make them better. Most of my experinces about that are from the amiga/protracker though. (My old Amiga started to be a little crashy after the thins it has been through). I get some crashes but they usually come when loading new machines. So, I save before I load machines I don't know wery well. After saying that... Go ahead and do it if you can and want it. I really don't know anything about coding but it seems that machines can be made to write to disk as several HD-recorders exist. And sorry if I sounded rude but when somebody says he has lost many songs because of the crashes, it sounds to me like they don't really save often enough. I really can't know what you know because I do not really know you. :-) Only information I had about you was what you wrote. by Elektroj?nis |
| | 2003-01-08: BTW. Could somebody do something like that for photoshop too. :) Its crashes are much more fatal than crashes in buzz because they are much more random. by Elektroj?nis |
| | 2003-01-08: That's why any of my project folders look like this:
save001.bmx
save003.bmx
save004.bmx
save005.bmx
save006.bmx
... by fugu5 |
| | 2003-01-10: yeah -- i am a very 'by ear' person when it comes to music. i rarely work out a melody line or chord progression ahead of time, and i will generally make a buzz track in one or two sessions of a few hours each. i set my synths and effects by ear (though i usually have a something of an idea of what i'm shooting for.. not the exact parameter numbers.. ) also, while i might remember the notes of the melody, i certainly don't remember exactly where i started a note slide or filter sweep or where i put the 'note off' command for each note in a five note chord that i had each note decaying at a different rate.. etc. etc.
it's not as simple as merely remembering what i did and recreating it sometimes.
but anyhow, i think this machine is a definate possiblilty and once i get some idea of how to go about programming for buzz, i'll start coding it.
by illium |
| | 2003-01-11: I'm pretty much by the ear type too... Especially with the melodies, harmonies and rythms because I don't know much about music theory. I just usually remember the stuff I'm working on... Later it comes much more difficult. I have some old amiga tracks that I can easily recognize that I made them but I have absolutely no memories from the process of making them. by Elektroj?nis |
| | 2003-01-12: Hear hear on this idea. I save plenty, but sometimes i forget (ok, so maybe i shouldn't buzz when i'm not sober), and other times, i really get into the song i'm making, get on a roll with adding things, and before I know it, i've got 3 new sections to my song, I'm bobbing my head, huge smile on my face, and BAM "Click ok to crash Buzz". ARRRGGHHH!!!!!! It's almost enough to drive me to Fruity Loops or Psycle. Not quite enough, but almost. by rdeskid |
| | 2003-01-13: If it makes you feel any better, I've had Sonar 2.0 crash twice in a week, wreking any song I had written. Other programs can be just as buggy as Buzz. Just get in the habit of saving whenever you move a muscle. I usually do before I add a machine, after I add a machine, and after I create or edit a patch or pattern. by IntrospectiveJourneys |
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